Trainer's Vault

The following are suggestions for which skill not to max commonly chosen by players. Although most are from first-hand experience, some are just research and not tested. Most old stances are tried and proven effective. The new stances are just theoretical and based solely on numbers so expect updates over time. This guide also assumes both stance ring is equipped for optimal effect.

Some stances are PVE or PVP oriented so suggestions for the opposite specialty might prove to be irrelevant. Still, options are given regardless of effectiveness to PVE or PVP.

Given the frequency of new characters the game releases every month, I have provided a basic checklist on determining what not to max below.

  1. The checklist only applies for stances with five skills which mostly apply to expert stances. You can max most basic and veteran stances since it contains less than five skill.
  2. Check if there are shared skill on the stance, you might not need to choose if you can potentially max it all. These are most prominent for basic stances but also exist for expert stances like Hellena's Forgotten Magic and Occultism Assistance or Christina's Gemma and Flos.
  3. Check if there are any skill that doesn't affect anything when leveled up. Some skill stays the same whether its level one, ten, eleven or twelve. Some example of this would be Abyss' Mass Destruction and Machina's Machina Control.
  4. There are skills that may benefit on leveling it up but may be useless depending on your purpose for the character. You may want a character's stance specifically for PVP or PVE. Some stances that may have dual purpose includes Rio's Prelude and Valeria's Innocentio.
  5. The final criteria will just come down to your preference. It is important to try out the character first and observe what skills are you using frequently and what skills are seldomly used. There may be skills that are stronger in theory but may be impractical to use.


List of Content:


Melee Stance Don't max the following skills for: Note
PVE PVP
Ancient Arts Dragon Aura
Ancient Guard Shield Charge
Ancient Slayer Arc Down
Arnis Lado Patada Intoxicacion
Barisada Prea
Blitz Assault Sonic Cross
Bloody Feast Crimson Crescent Bloody Horizon For both PVE and PVP, decrease 1 level each or max Crimson Crescent.
Bloody Rose Dagger Pelt
Bluff Krollonia
Brandish Arm Tornado Blow Mighty Victor Control For PVE, Tornado Blow can be maxed replacing Mighty Victor Control.
Bristian Cuisine - Knife Smoke Seasoning All skills can be maxed because of shared skill Smoke Seasoning.
Cherry Blossom Moon Slash
Clabuster Spin Uriela
Combat Assault Counter Preparation For both PVE and PVP, decrease 1 level each.
Crusader Defiant Aura The Sieger For PVP, The Sieger can be maxed replacing Defiant Aura.
Dadamos Kukatao
Dark Avenger Shadow Walk Decapitate For PVP, Decapitate can be maxed replacing Shadow Walk.
Death Chopping Dance of Death Present For PVE, Dance of Death can be maxed replacing Present.
Death Shadow Ninjutsu Throat Piercing Water Flakes Rising Circle For PVP, Water Flakes Rising Circle can be maxed replacing Throat Piercing.
Desire Red Crescent
Diable Friandise Hacher For PVP, Hacher can be maxed replacing Friandise.
Dragon Wrath Lightning Bomb Electrogravity For PVP, Electrogravity can be maxed replacing Lightning Bomb.
Eagle Claw Sling
Electronic Katz Triangle Slash
Equites Valentia
Ever Explosion Dash
Filo Corona
Flamenco (F) Fasiar
Flamenco (M) Tortazo
Fleuret Glacier Glacier Obsession
Fretensis Chartio
Furar Confidivus Inperos
Furious Skull Divider Bloody Rain For PVP, Bloody Rain can be maxed replacing Skull Divider.
Gae Bulg Fuga
Geirskogul Casta
Gemma Floren T. Buster All skills can be maxed because of shared skill Floren T. Buster.
Glacial Garde Tempete de Neige
Goliath Blame Smash Paeon For PVE, Blame Smash can be maxed replacing Paeon.
Gorgeous Repulsive Force Turning Force For PVE, Repulsive Force can be maxed replacing Turning Force.
Grave Voar
Hanging Guard Carnage
Holy Shielder Heavenly Shield
Illusion Garde Lovely Wink No! Trick For PVP, No! Trick can be maxed replacing Lovely Wink.
Imperial Guardian Impale Smash Crispo For PVE, Impale Smash can be maxed replacing Crispo.
Infierno Guard Fuego
Istion Metid
Karima Cuka
Lord of Death Moisson
Malediction Multi-Rate Tease For PVE, Multi-Rate can be maxed replacing Tease.
Martial Arts Compendium Enhanced Elemental Kick
Matileo Blame Smash
Panther Pantera Force
Peltast Piercing Bound Implosive Shock For PVP, Implosive Shock can be maxed replacing Piercing Bound.
Piracy Transfix
Quasar Gula Invidia For PVP, Invidia can be maxed replacing Gula.
Rapida Espada Espada De La Rotacion
Rapido Cruz Deep Sting Spear Wheel Kick For PVP, Spear Wheel Kick can be maxed replacing Deep Sting.
Rapiere of Grim Soul of Grim All skills can be maxed because of shared skill Soul of Grim.
Rapiere Punto
Retribution Prance Aura Forti Aura For both PVE and PVP, decrease 1 level each.
Rosa Secreta Corte Aquiles
Royal Guard Blast Stinger Detonate For PVP, Detonate can be maxed replacing Blast Stinger.
Sabretooth Dust Storm
Savate Pregarah
Secret of Moonlight Piercing Dimension Double Slice
Secreto Divide Half
Semilunar Occult Science Impulse For PVE, Occult Science can be maxed replacing Impulse.
Shadow Assault Counter Preparation For both PVE and PVP, decrease 1 level each.
Soul Bringer Blinkblow
Soul Guard Gust Bringer Chain Direction
Surgery ABR
Tested Guard Carnage
The Book of Flow Flow Circle Duel Soul Kick For PVE, Flow Circle can be maxed replacing Duel Soul Kick.
The Book of Lightning Blue Dragon Rising Third Eye For PVP, Third Eye can be maxed replacing Blue Dragon Rising.
Tronada Cruz Rueda Ventana Destruido For both PVE and PVP, decrease 1 level each or max Destruido.
Tyrfing Imuditia
Ursus Grizzly Shock
Vendetta Voidness
Vigilar Lento Bloquear For both PVE and PVP, decrease 1 level each or max Lento.
Violeta Fero Lily of the Valley Rosemarie For PVP, Rosemarie can be maxed replacing Lily of the Valley.
Wild Hammer Upper Swing
Wrath Guard Razantz
Shooting Stance Don't max the following skills for: Note
PVE PVP
Adventure Booby Trap
Ancient Bullet Clayboute Shot Clayboute Shot
Arc Sting Support Ballista
Barbatos Martus
Cannon Shooter Cannon Swing Cannon Shell Falling For PVP, Cannon Shell Falling can be maxed replacing Cannon Swing.
Cluster Dust Cleaner
Cobra Breaking Storm Heavy Drinker For PVP, Heavy Drinker can be maxed replacing Breaking Storm.
Croisement Attacher Bullet
Dark Lord Into the Darkness
Demolition Burst Starlight Flare Blast Shot For PVP, Blast Shot can be maxed replacing Starlight Flare.
Dual Blaster Expoison
Extreme Punisher Gun Slash
Femme Fatale Bloody Dagger Burst Flower For PVE, Bloody Dagger can be maxed replacing Burst Flower.
Flintlock Penetration Shot
Flos Floren T. Buster All skills can be maxed because of shared skill Floren T. Buster.
Frontier Dominion Relic
Gun Maestro Adagio
Heavy Stinger Bust Grenade Smoke Screen Either can be maxed for both depending on your strategy.
Incrucio Violent Shot
Master Plan Premeditation
Meister Boulevard Pace Assist Shooter For both PVE and PVP, decrease 1 level each or max Assist Shooter.
Prid Proof Shot
Punisher Zero Defect
Railgun Los Cremor
Reasoning Journalist Freeze!!
Sacred Bullet Arik
Saint Shot Back Dash Encounter
Shadow Sting Heart Breaker
Shining Sting Shining Breaker
Shooting Supporter Support Shot
Sniper Sand Flare Breathing
Split Shooter Reverse Rolling Shot Crown Lloyd Control For PVE, Reverse Rolling Shot can be maxed replacing Crown Lloyd Control.
Superior Blaster Execution Polluted Shot For PVE, Execution can be maxed replacing Polluted Shot.
Sweeper Clean Up Floor Cleaner For PVE, Clean Up can be maxed replacing Floor Cleaner.
Tactical Shot Point Blank
Tenebra Kaido
Tested Burst Starlight Flare Blast Shot For PVP, Blast Shot can be maxed replacing Starlight Flare.
Twin Sting Wire Shot
Unlimited Shot Circle Shot
Vanguard Order Double Pierce
Wanted Slider Shot Sting Bringer For PVP, Sting Bringer can be maxed replacing Slider Shot.
Whisper Rikenas Poll Place For both PVE and PVP, decrease 1 level each.
Complex Stance Don't max the following skills for: Note
PVE PVP
Bloody Punisher Bloody Over Range Shot Blood Navy Duo For PVE, Bloody Over Range Shot can be maxed replacing Blood Navy Duo.
Carrier Sanctuary of Crescent
Corsair Inferno of Revolver
Cutlass Crecent Firing
Magic Stance Don't max the following skills for: Note
PVE PVP
Abyss Mass Destruction
Activator Psychic Bomb Lady Sasha Control For PVE, Psychic Bomb can be maxed replacing Lady Sasha Control.
Ambrosia Giant Bat
Ancient Elemental Ice Partisan Flame Strike Either can be maxed for both depending on your strategy.
Ancient Spirit Raeloss Katore For both PVE and PVP, decrease 1 level each or max Katore.
Arma La Fuego
Atlas Moras
Aurel Lupus Aurel Shock
Black Cat Storm Blitz
Bristian Cuisine - Fire Smoke Seasoning All skills can be maxed because of shared skill Smoke Seasoning.
Castigo Lensa Lagrima For PVP, Lagrima can be maxed replacing Lensa.
Conviction Overwhelm
Creacion Dorminar Orden For PVP, Orden can be maxed replacing Dorminar.
Darkness Gloomy Present
Demolition Roar Blow Cannon
Distortion Cube Crystal Prison
Domination of Glacier Ice Lance Thorn Ground For PVE, Ice Lance can be maxed replacing Thorn Ground.
Drawing Tree of Rainbow
Efreet Flame Dance Fire Vrille For PVE, Flame Dance can be maxed replacing Fire Vrille.
Electronic Hare Call Hare
Electrica Billar Revolucion
Elegance Flutter
Elemental Master Elemental Spirit
Ensemble Larghissimo Diminuendo For PVP, Diminuendo can be maxed replacing Larghissimo.
Fate Sentence Sailient Volunt For PVP, Volunt can be maxed replacing Sailient.
Flame Roar Flame Suit
Floresta Raiz Rodia Aqui Mantara For PVE, Raiz Rodia can be maxed replacing Aqui Mantara.
Folclore Cancion
Freeze Over Ice Shot
Frost Circle Frost Frost Shield Either can be maxed for both depending on your strategy.
Hermetisme Chemical Electric Shock Chemical Explosion For both PVE and PVP, decrease 1 level each or max either one.
Ice Crown Glacier Sword
Icy Ambrosia Levin Scamper
Illusion Gunner Brestian Roulette
Imperial Tactics Operation : A
Infernal Burn Quick Boom Flame Rampage For PVP, Flame Rampage can be maxed replacing Quick Boom.
Inferno Call Giant
Intoxication Poison Tail
Lama Volcanic Marcha Lamael For PVE, Volcanic Marcha can be maxed replacing Lamael.
Leporine Ce Enemi
Machina Machina Control
Madness Mass Invisible Gabi Quake For PVE, Mass Invisible can be maxed replacing Gabi Quake.
Maiden of Glacier Snow Storm Snowflake For PVP, Snowflake can be maxed replacing Snow Storm.
Manipulation Hidden Card
Messiah Holy Sacrifice Sacred Territory For PVE, Holy Sacrifice can be maxed replacing Sacred Territory.
Mythos Belloy's Hell Fire
Nine Tails (F) Fox Form
Nine Tails (M) Fox Form
Occult Assistance Lightning Spear Tension All skills can be maxed because of shared skill Tension for Elementalist and Lightning Spear for Hellena.
Occult Magic Ice Vrille All skills can be maxed for Elementalist because of shared skill Tension while leaving Ice Vrille unmaxed for Hellena.
Phythonis Arrow of Mind
Prelude Animato Maestoso
Psychic Reve Call Reve
Red Sprite Return Stroke
Rocking Arounding
Salvatize Obratio Eremedium
Savior Revival
Sereni Pell Arkis
Sneedronningen Call Snow Golem
Story Telling Quran's Rampart Chester's Flame For PVE, Quran's Rampart can be maxed replacing Chester's Flame.
Talasa Caria
Telekinesis Wind Pressure
Tempest Thunderer Thunder Ball For PVE, Thunderer can be maxed replacing Thunder Ball.
Thanatos Acheron Necromancy For PVE, Acheron can be maxed replacing Necromancy.
Todestrip Frozen Ghost
Trikinesis Deception
Void Abyss Temptation
Zodiac Scorpius
Summon Stance Don't max the following skills for: Note
PVE PVP
Architecture Detect Web Construction Repair Tool For PVE, Detect Web Construction can be maxed replacing Repair Tool.
Destroyer Repair Tool
Guardian Structure Repair Tool
Puppet Master Nightmare
Trance Robo Silver Ararat Steamer Either can be maxed for both depending on your strategy.
Assistance Stance Don't max the following skills for: Note
PVE PVP
Ancient Tactics Bartor
Enhanced Tactics Escape Artist
Innocentio Exclusion Resurrection For PVE, Exclusion can be maxed replacing Resurrection.
Medical Combat Mass Evasion Acid Stalker For PVE, Mass Evasion can be maxed replacing Acid Stalker.
Placidez Secreta
Therapy Depoison Deresist For both PVE and PVP, decrease 1 level each.

24 comments:

  1. thanks sir, really helps me a lot

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  2. How about pets?

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  3. hello. how about Neo's? Istion?

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    1. It's untested but most probably the first skill.

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  4. how about nina's bloody punisher? i'm thinking summary conviction (1st skill)? thank you so much for this blog. keep it up! =)

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  5. I was checking out that Hanging Guard says not to max Carnage, but since a few patches back the first skill was changed to Shell Breaker, a buff. It apparantly changes nothing if you put points in it or am I missing something?

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    1. If I remember it correctly, you get +1AR on Level 11.

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  6. Jaina's stance Cluster?

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  7. How about Todestrip of Snowflake Berthe and Charles?

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  8. Prelude skills renamed...
    Animato -> Pieno
    Maestoso -> Virtuoso

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  9. Therapy has been changed. Don't max 2nd skill.

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  10. how about M.Berthe - Salvatize?

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  11. still updating?

    outstanding ones...
    Miho/Miha: Nine Tails,
    Cassandra: Filo,
    Moon: Barbatos,
    Nike: Retribution,
    Archbishop: Messiah,
    Ornella: Savior,
    Canna: Arma,
    Charlotte: Flame Roar/Lama,
    Cadet Romina: Shooting Support,
    Hildegard: Clabuster,

    thanks!

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