The following are suggestions for which skill not to max commonly chosen by players. Although most are from first-hand experience, some are just research and not tested. Most old stances are tried and proven effective. The new stances are just theoretical and based solely on numbers so expect updates over time. This guide also assumes both stance ring is equipped for optimal effect.
Some stances are PVE or PVP oriented so suggestions for the opposite specialty might prove to be irrelevant. Still, options are given regardless of effectiveness to PVE or PVP.
Given the frequency of new characters the game releases every month, I have provided a basic checklist on determining what not to max below.
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The checklist only applies for stances with five skills which mostly apply to expert stances. You can max most basic and veteran stances since it contains less than five skill.
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Check if there are shared skill on the stance, you might not need to choose if you can potentially max it all. These are most prominent for basic stances but also exist for expert stances like Hellena's Forgotten Magic and Occultism Assistance or Christina's Gemma and Flos.
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Check if there are any skill that doesn't affect anything when leveled up. Some skill stays the same whether its level one, ten, eleven or twelve. Some example of this would be Abyss' Mass Destruction and Machina's Machina Control.
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There are skills that may benefit on leveling it up but may be useless depending on your purpose for the character. You may want a character's stance specifically for PVP or PVE. Some stances that may have dual purpose includes Rio's Prelude and Valeria's Innocentio.
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The final criteria will just come down to your preference. It is important to try out the character first and observe what skills are you using frequently and what skills are seldomly used. There may be skills that are stronger in theory but may be impractical to use.
List of Content:
Melee Stance |
Don't max the following skills for: |
Note |
PVE |
PVP |
Ancient Arts |
Dragon Aura |
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Ancient Guard |
Shield Charge |
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Ancient Slayer |
Arc Down |
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Arnis |
Lado Patada |
Intoxicacion |
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Barisada |
Prea |
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Blitz Assault |
Sonic Cross |
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Bloody Feast |
Crimson Crescent |
Bloody Horizon |
For both PVE and PVP, decrease 1 level each or max Crimson Crescent. |
Bloody Rose |
Dagger Pelt |
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Bluff |
Krollonia |
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Brandish Arm |
Tornado Blow |
Mighty Victor Control |
For PVE, Tornado Blow can be maxed replacing Mighty Victor Control. |
Bristian Cuisine - Knife |
Smoke Seasoning |
All skills can be maxed because of shared skill Smoke Seasoning. |
Cherry Blossom |
Moon Slash |
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Clabuster |
Spin Uriela |
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Combat Assault |
Counter |
Preparation |
For both PVE and PVP, decrease 1 level each. |
Crusader |
Defiant Aura |
The Sieger |
For PVP, The Sieger can be maxed replacing Defiant Aura. |
Dadamos |
Kukatao |
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Dark Avenger |
Shadow Walk |
Decapitate |
For PVP, Decapitate can be maxed replacing Shadow Walk. |
Death Chopping |
Dance of Death |
Present |
For PVE, Dance of Death can be maxed replacing Present. |
Death Shadow Ninjutsu |
Throat Piercing |
Water Flakes Rising Circle |
For PVP, Water Flakes Rising Circle can be maxed replacing Throat Piercing. |
Desire |
Red Crescent |
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Diable |
Friandise |
Hacher |
For PVP, Hacher can be maxed replacing Friandise. |
Dragon Wrath |
Lightning Bomb |
Electrogravity |
For PVP, Electrogravity can be maxed replacing Lightning Bomb. |
Eagle Claw |
Sling |
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Electronic Katz |
Triangle Slash |
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Equites |
Valentia |
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Ever |
Explosion Dash |
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Filo |
Corona |
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Flamenco (F) |
Fasiar |
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Flamenco (M) |
Tortazo |
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Fleuret Glacier |
Glacier Obsession |
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Fretensis |
Chartio |
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Furar |
Confidivus |
Inperos |
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Furious |
Skull Divider |
Bloody Rain |
For PVP, Bloody Rain can be maxed replacing Skull Divider. |
Gae Bulg |
Fuga |
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Geirskogul |
Casta |
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Gemma |
Floren T. Buster |
All skills can be maxed because of shared skill Floren T. Buster. |
Glacial Garde |
Tempete de Neige |
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Goliath |
Blame Smash |
Paeon |
For PVE, Blame Smash can be maxed replacing Paeon. |
Gorgeous |
Repulsive Force |
Turning Force |
For PVE, Repulsive Force can be maxed replacing Turning Force. |
Grave |
Voar |
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Hanging Guard |
Carnage |
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Holy Shielder |
Heavenly Shield |
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Illusion Garde |
Lovely Wink |
No! Trick |
For PVP, No! Trick can be maxed replacing Lovely Wink. |
Imperial Guardian |
Impale Smash |
Crispo |
For PVE, Impale Smash can be maxed replacing Crispo. |
Infierno Guard |
Fuego |
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Istion |
Metid |
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Karima |
Cuka |
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Lord of Death |
Moisson |
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Malediction |
Multi-Rate |
Tease |
For PVE, Multi-Rate can be maxed replacing Tease. |
Martial Arts Compendium |
Enhanced Elemental Kick |
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Matileo |
Blame Smash |
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Panther |
Pantera Force |
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Peltast |
Piercing Bound |
Implosive Shock |
For PVP, Implosive Shock can be maxed replacing Piercing Bound. |
Piracy |
Transfix |
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Quasar |
Gula |
Invidia |
For PVP, Invidia can be maxed replacing Gula. |
Rapida Espada |
Espada De La Rotacion |
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Rapido Cruz |
Deep Sting |
Spear Wheel Kick |
For PVP, Spear Wheel Kick can be maxed replacing Deep Sting. |
Rapiere of Grim |
Soul of Grim |
All skills can be maxed because of shared skill Soul of Grim. |
Rapiere |
Punto |
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Retribution |
Prance Aura |
Forti Aura |
For both PVE and PVP, decrease 1 level each. |
Rosa Secreta |
Corte Aquiles |
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Royal Guard |
Blast Stinger |
Detonate |
For PVP, Detonate can be maxed replacing Blast Stinger. |
Sabretooth |
Dust Storm |
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Savate |
Pregarah |
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Secret of Moonlight |
Piercing Dimension |
Double Slice |
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Secreto |
Divide Half |
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Semilunar |
Occult Science |
Impulse |
For PVE, Occult Science can be maxed replacing Impulse. |
Shadow Assault |
Counter |
Preparation |
For both PVE and PVP, decrease 1 level each. |
Soul Bringer |
Blinkblow |
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Soul Guard |
Gust Bringer |
Chain Direction |
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Surgery |
ABR |
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Tested Guard |
Carnage |
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The Book of Flow |
Flow Circle |
Duel Soul Kick |
For PVE, Flow Circle can be maxed replacing Duel Soul Kick. |
The Book of Lightning |
Blue Dragon Rising |
Third Eye |
For PVP, Third Eye can be maxed replacing Blue Dragon Rising. |
Tronada Cruz |
Rueda Ventana |
Destruido |
For both PVE and PVP, decrease 1 level each or max Destruido. |
Tyrfing |
Imuditia |
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Ursus |
Grizzly Shock |
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Vendetta |
Voidness |
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Vigilar |
Lento |
Bloquear |
For both PVE and PVP, decrease 1 level each or max Lento. |
Violeta Fero |
Lily of the Valley |
Rosemarie |
For PVP, Rosemarie can be maxed replacing Lily of the Valley. |
Wild Hammer |
Upper Swing |
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Wrath Guard |
Razantz |
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Shooting Stance |
Don't max the following skills for: |
Note |
PVE |
PVP |
Adventure |
Booby Trap |
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Ancient Bullet |
Clayboute Shot
Clayboute Shot |
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Arc Sting |
Support Ballista |
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Barbatos |
Martus |
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Cannon Shooter |
Cannon Swing |
Cannon Shell Falling |
For PVP, Cannon Shell Falling can be maxed replacing Cannon Swing. |
Cluster |
Dust Cleaner |
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Cobra |
Breaking Storm |
Heavy Drinker |
For PVP, Heavy Drinker can be maxed replacing Breaking Storm. |
Croisement |
Attacher Bullet |
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Dark Lord |
Into the Darkness |
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Demolition Burst |
Starlight Flare |
Blast Shot |
For PVP, Blast Shot can be maxed replacing Starlight Flare. |
Dual Blaster |
Expoison |
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Extreme Punisher |
Gun Slash |
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Femme Fatale |
Bloody Dagger |
Burst Flower |
For PVE, Bloody Dagger can be maxed replacing Burst Flower. |
Flintlock |
Penetration Shot |
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Flos |
Floren T. Buster |
All skills can be maxed because of shared skill Floren T. Buster. |
Frontier |
Dominion Relic |
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Gun Maestro |
Adagio |
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Heavy Stinger |
Bust Grenade |
Smoke Screen |
Either can be maxed for both depending on your strategy. |
Incrucio |
Violent Shot |
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Master Plan |
Premeditation |
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Meister |
Boulevard Pace |
Assist Shooter |
For both PVE and PVP, decrease 1 level each or max Assist Shooter. |
Prid |
Proof Shot |
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Punisher |
Zero Defect |
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Railgun |
Los Cremor |
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Reasoning Journalist |
Freeze!! |
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Sacred Bullet |
Arik |
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Saint Shot |
Back Dash Encounter |
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Shadow Sting |
Heart Breaker |
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Shining Sting |
Shining Breaker |
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Shooting Supporter |
Support Shot |
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Sniper |
Sand Flare |
Breathing |
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Split Shooter |
Reverse Rolling Shot |
Crown Lloyd Control |
For PVE, Reverse Rolling Shot can be maxed replacing Crown Lloyd Control. |
Superior Blaster |
Execution |
Polluted Shot |
For PVE, Execution can be maxed replacing Polluted Shot. |
Sweeper |
Clean Up |
Floor Cleaner |
For PVE, Clean Up can be maxed replacing Floor Cleaner. |
Tactical Shot |
Point Blank |
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Tenebra |
Kaido |
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Tested Burst |
Starlight Flare |
Blast Shot |
For PVP, Blast Shot can be maxed replacing Starlight Flare. |
Twin Sting |
Wire Shot |
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Unlimited Shot |
Circle Shot |
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Vanguard Order |
Double Pierce |
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Wanted |
Slider Shot |
Sting Bringer |
For PVP, Sting Bringer can be maxed replacing Slider Shot. |
Whisper |
Rikenas |
Poll Place |
For both PVE and PVP, decrease 1 level each. |
Complex Stance |
Don't max the following skills for: |
Note |
PVE |
PVP |
Bloody Punisher |
Bloody Over Range Shot |
Blood Navy Duo |
For PVE, Bloody Over Range Shot can be maxed replacing Blood Navy Duo. |
Carrier |
Sanctuary of Crescent |
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Corsair |
Inferno of Revolver |
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Cutlass |
Crecent Firing |
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Magic Stance |
Don't max the following skills for: |
Note |
PVE |
PVP |
Abyss |
Mass Destruction |
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Activator |
Psychic Bomb |
Lady Sasha Control |
For PVE, Psychic Bomb can be maxed replacing Lady Sasha Control. |
Ambrosia |
Giant Bat |
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Ancient Elemental |
Ice Partisan |
Flame Strike |
Either can be maxed for both depending on your strategy. |
Ancient Spirit |
Raeloss |
Katore |
For both PVE and PVP, decrease 1 level each or max Katore. |
Arma |
La Fuego |
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Atlas |
Moras |
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Aurel Lupus |
Aurel Shock |
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Black Cat |
Storm Blitz |
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Bristian Cuisine - Fire |
Smoke Seasoning |
All skills can be maxed because of shared skill Smoke Seasoning. |
Castigo |
Lensa |
Lagrima |
For PVP, Lagrima can be maxed replacing Lensa. |
Conviction |
Overwhelm |
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Creacion |
Dorminar |
Orden |
For PVP, Orden can be maxed replacing Dorminar. |
Darkness |
Gloomy Present |
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Demolition Roar |
Blow Cannon |
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Distortion Cube |
Crystal Prison |
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Domination of Glacier |
Ice Lance |
Thorn Ground |
For PVE, Ice Lance can be maxed replacing Thorn Ground. |
Drawing |
Tree of Rainbow |
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Efreet |
Flame Dance |
Fire Vrille |
For PVE, Flame Dance can be maxed replacing Fire Vrille. |
Electronic Hare |
Call Hare |
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Electrica Billar |
Revolucion |
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Elegance |
Flutter |
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Elemental Master |
Elemental Spirit |
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Ensemble |
Larghissimo |
Diminuendo |
For PVP, Diminuendo can be maxed replacing Larghissimo. |
Fate Sentence |
Sailient |
Volunt |
For PVP, Volunt can be maxed replacing Sailient. |
Flame Roar |
Flame Suit |
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Floresta |
Raiz Rodia |
Aqui Mantara |
For PVE, Raiz Rodia can be maxed replacing Aqui Mantara. |
Folclore |
Cancion |
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Freeze Over |
Ice Shot |
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Frost |
Circle Frost |
Frost Shield |
Either can be maxed for both depending on your strategy. |
Hermetisme |
Chemical Electric Shock |
Chemical Explosion |
For both PVE and PVP, decrease 1 level each or max either one. |
Ice Crown |
Glacier Sword |
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Icy Ambrosia |
Levin Scamper |
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Illusion Gunner |
Brestian Roulette |
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Imperial Tactics |
Operation : A |
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Infernal Burn |
Quick Boom |
Flame Rampage |
For PVP, Flame Rampage can be maxed replacing Quick Boom. |
Inferno |
Call Giant |
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Intoxication |
Poison Tail |
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Lama |
Volcanic Marcha |
Lamael |
For PVE, Volcanic Marcha can be maxed replacing Lamael. |
Leporine |
Ce Enemi |
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Machina |
Machina Control |
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Madness |
Mass Invisible |
Gabi Quake |
For PVE, Mass Invisible can be maxed replacing Gabi Quake. |
Maiden of Glacier |
Snow Storm |
Snowflake |
For PVP, Snowflake can be maxed replacing Snow Storm. |
Manipulation |
Hidden Card |
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Messiah |
Holy Sacrifice |
Sacred Territory |
For PVE, Holy Sacrifice can be maxed replacing Sacred Territory. |
Mythos |
Belloy's Hell Fire |
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Nine Tails (F) |
Fox Form |
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Nine Tails (M) |
Fox Form |
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Occult Assistance |
Lightning Spear |
Tension |
All skills can be maxed because of shared skill Tension for Elementalist and Lightning Spear for Hellena. |
Occult Magic |
Ice Vrille |
All skills can be maxed for Elementalist because of shared skill Tension while leaving Ice Vrille unmaxed for Hellena. |
Phythonis |
Arrow of Mind |
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Prelude |
Animato |
Maestoso |
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Psychic Reve |
Call Reve |
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Red Sprite |
Return Stroke |
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Rocking |
Arounding |
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Salvatize |
Obratio |
Eremedium |
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Savior |
Revival |
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Sereni |
Pell Arkis |
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Sneedronningen |
Call Snow Golem |
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Story Telling |
Quran's Rampart |
Chester's Flame |
For PVE, Quran's Rampart can be maxed replacing Chester's Flame. |
Talasa |
Caria |
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Telekinesis |
Wind Pressure |
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Tempest |
Thunderer |
Thunder Ball |
For PVE, Thunderer can be maxed replacing Thunder Ball. |
Thanatos |
Acheron |
Necromancy |
For PVE, Acheron can be maxed replacing Necromancy. |
Todestrip |
Frozen Ghost |
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Trikinesis |
Deception |
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Void |
Abyss Temptation |
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Zodiac |
Scorpius |
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Summon Stance |
Don't max the following skills for: |
Note |
PVE |
PVP |
Architecture |
Detect Web Construction |
Repair Tool |
For PVE, Detect Web Construction can be maxed replacing Repair Tool. |
Destroyer |
Repair Tool |
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Guardian Structure |
Repair Tool |
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Puppet Master |
Nightmare |
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Trance Robo |
Silver Ararat |
Steamer |
Either can be maxed for both depending on your strategy. |
Assistance Stance |
Don't max the following skills for: |
Note |
PVE |
PVP |
Ancient Tactics |
Bartor |
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Enhanced Tactics |
Escape Artist |
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Innocentio |
Exclusion |
Resurrection |
For PVE, Exclusion can be maxed replacing Resurrection. |
Medical Combat |
Mass Evasion |
Acid Stalker |
For PVE, Mass Evasion can be maxed replacing Acid Stalker. |
Placidez |
Secreta |
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Therapy |
Depoison |
Deresist |
For both PVE and PVP, decrease 1 level each. |
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Miho/Miha: Nine Tails,
Cassandra: Filo,
Moon: Barbatos,
Nike: Retribution,
Archbishop: Messiah,
Ornella: Savior,
Canna: Arma,
Charlotte: Flame Roar/Lama,
Cadet Romina: Shooting Support,
Hildegard: Clabuster,
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