Trainer's Vault

The following are suggestions for which skill not to max commonly chosen by players. Although most are from first-hand experience, some are just research and not tested. Most old stances are tried and proven effective. The new stances are just theoretical and based solely on numbers so expect updates over time. This guide also assumes both stance ring is equipped for optimal effect.

Some stances are PVE or PVP oriented so suggestions for the opposite specialty might prove to be irrelevant. Still, options are given regardless of effectiveness to PVE or PVP.


List of Content:


Melee Stance Don't max the following skills for: Note
PVE PVP
Arnis Lado Patada Intoxicacion
Blitz Assault Sonic Cross
Bloody Feast Crimson Crescent Bloody Horizon For both PVE and PVP, decrease 1 level each or max Crimson Crescent.
Brandish Arm Tornado Blow Mighty Victor Control For PVE, Tornado Blow can be maxed replacing Mighty Victor Control.
Combat Assault Counter Preparation For both PVE and PVP, decrease 1 level each.
Crusader Defiant Aura The Sieger For PVP, The Sieger can be maxed replacing Defiant Aura.
Dark Avenger Shadow Walk Decapitate For PVP, Decapitate can be maxed replacing Shadow Walk.
Death Chopping Dance of Death Present For PVE, Dance of Death can be maxed replacing Present.
Death Shadow Ninjutsu Throat Piercing Water Flakes Rising Circle For PVP, Water Flakes Rising Circle can be maxed replacing Throat Piercing.
Desire Red Crescent
Diable Friandise Hacher For PVP, Hacher can be maxed replacing Friandise.
Dragon Wrath Lightning Bomb Electrogravity For PVP, Electrogravity can be maxed replacing Lightning Bomb.
Eagle Claw Sling
Electronic Katz Triangle Slash
Equites Valentia
Fleuret Glacier Glacier Obsession
Furious Skull Divider Bloody Rain For PVP, Bloody Rain can be maxed replacing Skull Divider.
Gorgeous Repulsive Force Turning Force For PVE, Repulsive Force can be maxed replacing Turning Force.
Hanging Guard Carnage
Holy Shielder Heavenly Shield
Illusion Garde Lovely Wink No! Trick For PVP, No! Trick can be maxed replacing Lovely Wink.
Imperial Guardian Impale Smash Crispo For PVE, Impale Smash can be maxed replacing Crispo.
Infierno Guard Fuego
Martial Arts Compendium Enhanced Elemental Kick
Peltast Piercing Bound Implosive Shock For PVP, Implosive Shock can be maxed replacing Piercing Bound.
Piracy Transfix
Quasar Gula Invidia For PVP, Invidia can be maxed replacing Gula.
Rapida Espada Espada De La Rotacion
Rapido Cruz Deep Sting Spear Wheel Kick For PVP, Spear Wheel Kick can be maxed replacing Deep Sting.
Rapiere of Grim Soul of Grim All skills can be maxed because of shared skill Soul of Grim.
Rapiere Punto
Rosa Secreta Corte Aquiles
Royal Guard Blast Stinger Detonate For PVP, Detonate can be maxed replacing Blast Stinger.
Sabretooth Dust Storm
Secret of Moonlight Piercing Dimension Double Slice
Secreto Divide Half
Semilunar Occult Science Impulse For PVE, Occult Science can be maxed replacing Impulse.
Shadow Assault Counter Preparation For both PVE and PVP, decrease 1 level each.
Soul Bringer Blinkblow
Soul Guard Gust Bringer Chain Direction
Tested Guard Carnage
The Book of Flow Flow Circle Duel Soul Kick For PVE, Flow Circle can be maxed replacing Duel Soul Kick.
The Book of Lightning Blue Dragon Rising Third Eye For PVP, Third Eye can be maxed replacing Blue Dragon Rising.
Tronada Cruz Rueda Ventana Destruido For both PVE and PVP, decrease 1 level each or max Destruido.
Vendetta Voidness
Vigilar Lento Bloquear For both PVE and PVP, decrease 1 level each or max Lento.
Wild Hammer Upper Swing
Shooting Stance Don't max the following skills for: Note
PVE PVP
Arc Sting Support Ballista
Cannon Shooter Cannon Swing Cannon Shell Falling For PVP, Cannon Shell Falling can be maxed replacing Cannon Swing.
Cobra Breaking Storm Heavy Drinker For PVP, Heavy Drinker can be maxed replacing Breaking Storm.
Croisement Attacher Bullet
Demolition Burst Starlight Flare Blast Shot For PVP, Blast Shot can be maxed replacing Starlight Flare.
Dual Blaster Expoison
Extreme Punisher Gun Slash
Femme Fatale Bloody Dagger Burst Flower For PVE, Bloody Dagger can be maxed replacing Burst Flower.
Flintlock Penetration Shot
Heavy Stinger Bust Grenade Smoke Screen Either can be maxed for both depending on your strategy.
Punisher Zero Defect
Reasoning Journalist Freeze!!
Sacred Bullet Arik [Experimental]
Saint Shot Back Dash Encounter
Shadow Sting Heart Breaker
Shining Sting Shining Breaker
Sniper Sand Flare Breathing
Split Shooter Reverse Rolling Shot Crown Lloyd Control For PVE, Reverse Rolling Shot can be maxed replacing Crown Lloyd Control.
Superior Blaster Execution Polluted Shot For PVE, Execution can be maxed replacing Polluted Shot.
Sweeper Clean Up Floor Cleaner For PVE, Clean Up can be maxed replacing Floor Cleaner.
Tested Burst Starlight Flare Blast Shot For PVP, Blast Shot can be maxed replacing Starlight Flare.
Twin Sting Wire Shot
Unlimited Shot Circle Shot
Wanted Slider Shot Sting Bringer For PVP, Sting Bringer can be maxed replacing Slider Shot.
Complex Stance Don't max the following skills for: Note
PVE PVP
Cutlass Crecent Firing
Magic Stance Don't max the following skills for: Note
PVE PVP
Abyss Mass Destruction
Activator Psychic Bomb Lady Sasha Control For PVE, Psychic Bomb can be maxed replacing Lady Sasha Control.
Ambrosia Giant Bat
Conviction Overwhelm
Creacion Dorminar Orden For PVP, Orden can be maxed replacing Dorminar.
Darkness Gloomy Present
Demolition Roar Blow Cannon
Distortion Cube Crystal Prison
Drawing Tree of Rainbow
Efreet Flame Dance Fire Vrille For PVE, Flame Dance can be maxed replacing Fire Vrille.
Electronic Hare Call Hare
Elemental Master Elemental Spirit [Experimental]
Floresta Raiz Rodia Aqui Mantara For PVE, Raiz Rodia can be maxed replacing Aqui Mantara.
Folclore Cancion
Frost Circle Frost Frost Shield Either can be maxed for both depending on your strategy.
Hermetisme Chemical Electric Shock Chemical Explosion For both PVE and PVP, decrease 1 level each or max either one.
Icy Ambrosia Levin Scamper
Illusion Gunner Brestian Roulette
Imperial Tactics Operation : A [Experimental]
Infernal Burn Quick Boom Flame Rampage For PVP, Flame Rampage can be maxed replacing Quick Boom.
Inferno Call Giant
Machina Static Machina Control Either can be maxed for both depending on your strategy.
Madness Mass Invisible Gabi Quake For PVP, Mass Invisible can be maxed replacing Gabi Quake.
Maiden of Glacier Snow Storm Snowflake For PVE, Snowflake can be maxed replacing Snow Storm.
Manipulation Hidden Card [Experimental]
Occult Assistance Lightning Spear Tension All skills can be maxed because of shared skill Tension for Elementalist and Lightning Spear for Hellena.
Occult Magic Ice Vrille All skills can be maxed for Elementalist because of shared skill Tension while leaving Ice Vrille unmaxed for Hellena.
Phythonis Arrow of Mind
Prelude Animato Maestoso
Psychic Reve Call Reve
Rocking Arounding
Sneedronningen Call Snow Golem
Story Telling Quran's Rampart Chester's Flame For PVE, Quran's Rampart can be maxed replacing Chester's Flame.
Telekinesis Wind Pressure
Tempest Thunderer Thunder Ball For PVE, Thunderer can be maxed replacing Thunder Ball.
Thanatos Acheron Necromancy For PVE, Acheron can be maxed replacing Necromancy.
Trikinesis Deception
Summon Stance Don't max the following skills for: Note
PVE PVP
Architecture Detect Web Construction Repair Tool For PVE, Detect Web Construction can be maxed replacing Repair Tool.
Destroyer Repair Tool
Guardian Structure Repair Tool
Puppet Master Nightmare
Trance Robo Silver Ararat Steamer Either can be maxed for both depending on your strategy.
Assistance Stance Don't max the following skills for: Note
PVE PVP
Enhanced Tactics Escape Artist
Innocentio Exclusion Resurrection For PVE, Exclusion can be maxed replacing Resurrection.
Medical Combat Mass Evasion Acid Stalker For PVE, Mass Evasion can be maxed replacing Acid Stalker.
Placidez Secreta
Therapy Depoison

14 comments:

  1. thanks sir, really helps me a lot

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  2. How about pets?

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  3. hello. how about Neo's? Istion?

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    1. It's untested but most probably the first skill.

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  4. how about nina's bloody punisher? i'm thinking summary conviction (1st skill)? thank you so much for this blog. keep it up! =)

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  5. I was checking out that Hanging Guard says not to max Carnage, but since a few patches back the first skill was changed to Shell Breaker, a buff. It apparantly changes nothing if you put points in it or am I missing something?

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    1. If I remember it correctly, you get +1AR on Level 11.

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